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  BBC Radio 4 reference to 607 Babylonian conquest?

  by 88JM in

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  was listening to bbc radio 4 late sunday night, and in a programme about migration, they referenced the "babylonian conquest of jerusalem in 607 b.c.

  " which caught my attention.. did they not mean 587 b.c., or did i understand it wrong?.

  the link to the programme is below - sorry if you're not in the u.k. as you probably won't be able to listen to bbc programmes.

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  Bungi Bill

  Where is djeggnog (or is it DJDamnfool?) right now? He used to have alot to say on this matter!

  Bill
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  "Witness to Murder" an upcoming program on US TV about a JW family will air August 20th...

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  2. friends

  i was informed yesterday that a us cable tv channel named investigation discovery will be broadcasting a 7-part series named "deadly devotion.

  " one program in the series is "witness to murder" which will air wednesday evening, august 20th, probably at 9 p.m. est.

  check the schedule on the internet which lists the date and time of broadcast two-weeks ahead.

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  Bungi Bill

  Thanks for posting this. Down here, we are unlikely to see this presentation any time soon, so I will try and get hold of a copy of the book.

  Bill.
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  What's your personality type? Myers-Briggs test

  by frankiespeakin in

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  2. beliefs

  take this 72 yes/no question test to find out.. http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp.

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  Bungi Bill

  INTJ

  "Introverted, Intuitive, Thinking, Judgemental"

  Actually a bit of a worry, so was Ulysses S. Grant:

  - and (those of you in America please correct me if I am wrong) I understand that he was something of a drunk?

  Bill
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  Awake 1973 banned Witnesses playing Chess..why?

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  are all articles from jehovahs thoughts or do personal biased views poison the watchtower articles?

  imagine a brother who hates chess observing in discust two bethelites playing chess...would it be right to use jehovahs "spiritual food" to push your own warped view....yes!!.

  awake 1973 3/22 p.12 chess- "...the spirit of compitition between players can lead to unplesant circumstances...most families can keep comfrontations to the chess board...but for some the tension lingers long past checkmate...chess has been a game of war since its origin...a play substitute for the art of war...there is a danger of "stirring up compitition with one another" even developing hostility towards one another, something the bible warns christians to avoid..what effect does playing chess have apoun one?

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  Bungi Bill

  The timing of that particular Awake article is no coincidence. For a lengthy period during the previous year, 1972, there had been a (very) well publicised series of chess games between the American Bobby Fischer and the Russian Boris Spasky.

  During this time, chess sets sold like never before - and probably like never since, as well. In fact, the expression"Chess Craze" would not be too strong a term to use to describe the hysteria that caught on over this series of chess games.

  The media certainly hyped it up, and until the final saga of the Vietnam war (at least its allied intervention, anyway) displaced it later in that year, it seemed as if this chess match was all the media could talk about.

  This sudden, new found enthusiasm for chess did catch on in the JW congregations, as well - which almost certainly prompted that Awake article. (After all, old Kill Joy would have to have something to say about anything that might actually entertain people!)

  Bill
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  99.9% Of a People Who Believe In Evolution Don't Understand It.

  by Space Madness in

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  i never believed in evolution as i thought it didn't make sense and that what was proposed was simply impossible.

  how could an environment alter an organism's dna?

  as we can see however, bacteria cannot become resistance to antibiotics.

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  Bungi Bill

  Sounds a bit like the "brother" who "brought me into the truth."

  His way of dealing with the matter of evolution was to ask a person "which theory of evolution do you believe in?" Then, when they could not answer that question, it was supposed to be a thought stopper. However, it was all an excercise in smoke and mirrors - as that opinionated, uneducated knowall twerp had no more idea of how many "theories" of evolution there were than those he was preaching to.

  Take any branch of science that you care to mention, and you will find there is still much to learn. Furthermore, this situation is unlikely to change anytime soon. However, that fact in no way means that science is all nonsense, i.e. just because there is still much to learn:

  This very much includes evolution.

  Bill.
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  1914 vs 2014

  by ILoveTTATT in

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  2. friends

  it's amazing to examine the watchtower of 1914 now in 2014... 100 years later.. .

  here are some of my comments on the watchtower of 1914:.

  second article in january 1st.

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  Bungi Bill

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  Is it wrong to mock and ridicule the Watchtower Society?

  by yadda yadda 2 in

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  2. friends

  robert j ingersoll on the great voltaire:.

  "it has been claimed by the christian critics that voltaire was irreverent; that he examined sacred things without solemnity; that he refused to remove his shoes in the presence of the burning bush; that he smiled at the geology of moses, the astronomical ideas of joshua, and that the biography of jonah filled him with laughter.

  they say that these stories, these sacred impossibilities, these inspired falsehoods, should be read and studied with a believing mind in humbleness of spirit; that they should be examined prayerfully, asking god at the same time to give us strength to triumph over the conclusions of our reason.

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  Bungi Bill

  What is so bloody sacred about the Watch Tower Society that they should be immune from ridicule?

  However, there is mocking and then there is mocking

  You mean it is all-right for you to take the mickey out of somebody, but God help anybody that tries to have ago at the Watch Tower Society!

  Bill.
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  No TARPS Allowed (or large umbrellas).

  by problemaddict in

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  2. beliefs

  maybe this was already covered here.

  i've been absent a bit more than usual.. at qualcomm stadium, home of the chargers and the "special arrangement" with san diego which means they use the venue for free, you are not allowed to bring a tarp in the 80 degree sunshine, nor a large umbrella.. mercifully however, you may bring a small one person umbrella you can hold or perhaps vice to the seat, but if someone asks you to take it down, you are to oblige.

  san diego is freaking out over this i can assure you.

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  Bungi Bill

  Blondie's comments do invite some further discussion about these matters.

  The WTS does indeed make frequent reference to what the Israelites did, and did not do. Christians, however, would be quick to point to the example of Jesus Christ:

  - and how, when speaking to the crowds of people that followed him about, he showed great concern for their comfort.

  According to Raymond Franz's Crisis of Conscience, even the WTS's then president, N.H. Knorr, volunteered that the JW religion is not at all concerned with the welfare of its R&F. That is one statement of Knorr's that few of us would take issue about!

  Bill.
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  40 years on - and still in Damage Control mode!

  by Bungi Bill in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  earlier this morning, i posted off to the the institute of engineers an application for membership as an "engineering associate":.

  - today being just over 40 years since the congregation's retards elders made me abandon my apprenticeship.. (in this part of the world, the pre-1975 hype was taken to that level.

  not being content to prevent young persons attending university, they went one step further and treated with hostility any youngster who would "tie up five years of their lives" by entering into an apprenticeship.

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  Bungi Bill

  I have just passed the half way mark with the Advanced Diploma course.

  With the technical subjects so far covered, there has been little that was new to me - coming as I do from a trade background with 35+ years industry experience. However, the "Fundamantals of Professional Engineering" component has been very worthwhile, particularly the computer software programs that are available to assist in project management work.

  At this rate, I should complete the course by the end of this year.

  Bill.
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  How old were you when you left the Watchtower - SURVEY

  by usualusername in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i believe that the older you are the harder it is to leave the watchtower.. .

  i am attempting to get a list of ages people learnt the "truth" and what age they left.. .

  uun.

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  Bungi Bill

  I was introduced to the JW religion by my newly-converted grandmother, when I was nine years old.

  From age 11 onwards, I was an avid reader of WT propaganda, and at 14 agreed to the offer of a "free" home bible study.

  Baptised at 17, and at 39 realised I could no longer keep up the charade anymore

  (i.e. try to defend the indefensible ).

  Bill